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[Sniffsla]

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Любителей горных лыж, которые собираются на отдых в Швейцарию, ждет нововведение. Власти страны приняли решение установить лимит скорости во время спусков по горным трассам.

[Sniffsla]

>> Средняя скорость движения начинающего лыжника как раз и составляет 30 километров в час. Однако профессионалы катаются в два раза быстрее.

Улыбнуло такое на лыжном портале
Это ж НТВ придумало для широкой аудитории

Вообще жесть конечно адская, немного жестче по теме на Барбарое:http://barbaroy.ru/blogs/mountains/21/

[MashaSki]

Просто мрак! Это как надо ползти на 30 км??? Я не профессионал, в детстве только тренировалась, но в среднем еду за 50, а ежели погонять, то как-то намеряла 88 (на коротком участке, не успела разогнатся). На горе достаточно народу, которые едут быстрей меня. 30 это какая-то утопия!

[official_skiru]

Sniffsla сказал(а) 8.1.2008, 16:04:

>> Средняя скорость движения начинающего лыжника как раз и составляет 30 километров в час. Однако профессионалы катаются в два раза быстрее.
Улыбнуло такое на лыжном портале
Это ж НТВ придумало для широкой аудитории
Вообще жесть конечно адская, немного жестче по теме на Барбарое:http://barbaroy.ru/blogs/mountains/21/

Оригинал (привожу текст на случай, если не откроется ссылка)
http://travel.timeso...icle3134330.ece

Speed demons will meet their match on the piste

Skiers and snowboarders who love the unrestricted thrill of hurtling down alpine pistes on a sunny winter’s day are about to be stopped in their tracks.

Switzerland is introducing speed cameras on the slopes to try to reduce the increasing number of accidents. The first such nationwide controls will treat skiers like cars on the motorway. Speeders will be caught with hand-held radar devices carried by hidden personnel.

Persistent offenders could be fined or have ski passes confiscated.

The scheme is being introduced after figures revealed a drastic increase in serious ski-related accidents in Switzerland. The booming winter tourism trade has led to overcrowding at the most popular resorts and a sharp rise in accidents. Impeccable pistes and new skiing equipment also encourages skiers and snowboarders of all levels to go ever faster.

Last year there were more than 70,000 accidents on Swiss ski slopes, many resulting in serious injuries and deaths. Swiss helicopter rescue teams were called out for serious accidents 300 times in December alone, and the total cost of rescue operations is expected to exceed £100 million.The state-controlled Swiss Accident Insurance (Suva), the country’s biggest provider of compulsory cover, has responded by introducing the speed controls as part of a safety campaign.

Angela Zobrist, a spokeswoman, said: “This is not another fun-spoiling campaign of the health and safety brigade and we don’t intend to raise a warning finger to all snow sport lovers. It is a genuine safety concern. You do not realise how fast you go, which can prove to be really dangerous if you impact with another skier or have any other incident.”

The monitoring will start today in the resort of Andermatt, and will be extended to the rest of the country, including resorts such as St Moritz, Zermatt and Davos. Similar experiments have been conducted on a small scale but this is the first campaign to include all the top resorts in Switzerland.

Studies using crash test dummies on skis, similar to those conducted with cars, have suggested that going faster than 30km/h (19mph) is not safe, and that going faster than 50km/h is potentially fatal.

Authorities are exploring the legal options of punishing speeding skiers, although it is complicated because Switzerland’s cantons have different laws. Punishments are likely to vary from resort to resort.

Speeders will not be fined initially, but will be singled out and approached by Suva personnel and employees of the individual resorts, They will tell offenders to moderate their speed and explain the danger speeding poses to themselves and others on the slopes.

Josef Dahinden, a spokesman for the Andermatt resort, said: “We have collisions resulting in injuries on the pistes almost every day and the purpose of this campaign is to get people to return to normal speed and go below 30km/h.”

The move has been generally welcomed by skiers. Katy Laffan, 27, an experienced skier from London, said: “To be honest, I do not know how fast I usually go. It could be a good idea to monitor the speed on the piste, but I would say that it’s not the fast skiers who cause accidents but the ones who are out of control, such as beginners on steep slopes or drunk people.”

[swissmaker]

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[maxpv]

Был в Цермате в феврале 2007, народ спускается достаточно медленно. У них как я понял все размеренно. Был во многих местах, в Цермат не поеду точно.

[MashaSki]

А вот, очевидно, первоначальная ссылка http://news.bbc.co.u...pe/4678806.stm) Из серии- вырвать из контекста ,уловить лишь слова ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ и 30 км в час и во тебе и скандал... В приведенном ниже тексте речь идет о существовании отдельных голубых склонов для начинающиъ и детей, где будут введены эти ограничения. Хочешь ехать быстрее - иди на красную. Кроме того "горная полиция", для отлова любителей гона (во всех смыслах), безконтрольного и оторванного от реальных возможностей. Так что все вполне логично и даже здраво. Вот как бывает!

Ski resorts across Europe are looking at the possibility of imposing speed restrictions on some slopes.


People are getting used to speed limit

This season Grindelwald, in Switzerland, has become the first resort to introduce a 30km/h speed limit on one of its runs and other resorts are watching closely.

A random survey of two dozens resorts by BBC News reveals all are looking at the experiment and some may now impose further speed limits in certain areas.

The issue has sharply divided the ski community; some welcome the safety move as long overdue while others fear it will severely curtail their freedom.

Speed kills

It follows a growing number of collisions caused by people skiing too fast as the slopes become ever more crowded. In France last season the number of collisions on the slopes went up 15% and included several fatalities.

Susanne Daxelhoffer from the area's Tourist Office told the BBC News website said the Grindelwald slope had been a great success.


Susanne Daxelhoffer says it is what skiers want

"We did it because that's what people wanted," she said.


"The project is based on complaints of people skiing too fast and therefore fulfils a need".

The slope in question is divided by safety netting and skiers opt to ski down an easy blue run with a 30km/h limit or go for a more difficult red slope without a restriction. A random selection of people I canvassed on the slope in Grindelwald all thought it was a good idea.

"It's particularly good if you have young children and want them to be able to ski without being hit by out of control skiers going too fast," British skier and father of three, Richard Slater, told me.

Angry reaction

However, not everyone welcomes the move and it has sparked a fierce debate on ski chatrooms on the internet. The Ski Club of Great Britain has more than 30,000 members and though many are broadly supportive others fear it will restrict their freedom.

One person has even threatened to give up skiing altogether if there are further restrictions. On another internet chatroom, Snowheads, feelings have been running just as high with many critical of new rules and regulations.

"Although on the surface it seems a good idea people should have the freedom to go as fast as they like as long as they are in control," says Iain Martin the director of Natives, the organisation representing British resort workers in The Alps.

"People want to live freely in the mountains not be told what to do all the time and if some resorts introduced speed limits people would just go elsewhere."

Safety measures

The development reflects the situation in America where dangerous skiers have their lift passes confiscated and people have even gone to jail for skiing out of control.


Fast skiers are warned but not fined

Many areas are patrolled by officials who keep people's speed down and there are slow areas with speed limits.

In Grindelwald those skiing too fast are not fined, just warned to slow down.

European resorts are undoubtedly paying more attention to safety with netting positioned to slow people down at busy junctions and safety rules positioned more prominently.

In Andorra security patrols have the power to take away lift passes from people skiing too fast and some Alpine resorts including, Val D'Isere, have patrols who look out for dangerous skiers.

As high speed lifts take more and more people up the slopes the pistes are getting more crowded. Next week is half-term across Europe and the slopes will be at their busiest with medical centres preparing for hundreds of casualties - some caused by speeding skiers.

[swissmaker]

MashеSki объявляется благодарность

[agromov]

Sniffsla сказал(а) 8.1.2008, 16:04:

Вообще жесть конечно адская, немного жестче по теме на Барбарое:http://barbaroy.ru/blogs/mountains/21/

сравнение с роликами неадекват полный
автор хвастается
на 70 км в час ролики слабоуправляемы (и я знаю эту трассу в одинцово)
на лыжах это же совершенно другая скорость

[damir-freeride]

Нам пох,камер не хватит поставить вне трас!!!!!!!

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[swissmaker]

Ух ты. Припоминаю эту замечательную картинку. У меня даже есть такая

Здарова Дамир! Их бин Олдис, Андрей Тарасов

[DJSnow]

Несмотря на то, что скромно отношу себя к рейсерам , контроль скорости полностью поддерживаю. В этом году в Вербье была свидетелем ряда серьезных столкновений. Вообще Вербье меня поразило большим кол-вом потрясающе быстро и просто потрясающе катающихся людей, но они приколисты сделали speedcheck на уклоне, не превышающем параметры синей трассы, понятное дело что там больше 50 км/ч ни у кого не было.